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Following her big, beautiful comeback as a distraught mother determined to rescue her son from paranormal forces in "Stranger Things," it seemed impossible to love Winona Ryder any more. 

After all, the characters she portrayed throughout the late '80s and '90s made her something of a ~quirky girl~ icon, and it seems both unfair and inexplicable that her December 2001 arrest for shoplifting led to the serious career hiatus it did. So when the Duffer Brothers finally brought her back to center stage after years of small roles and cameos, it was a damn relief to see she's still got it. She still plays the borderline-unhinged character to perfection, though her frenzied character on "Stranger Things," Joyce, is decidedly less cool than, say, Susanna on "Girl, Interrupted."

Actually, these days Ryder might share a bit more in common with Joyce — namely, puzzlement over what the youths are into. During an interview with Variety on a recent press tour, she shared what some of these puzzlements are — and ended up sounding like an adorable grandma. It's wonderful. 

About Taylor Swift's fandom, she had this to say:

"The Swifties? Like a Swifty Picker Upper? I have one of those to clean my house."

And she thought Snapchat was a brand of CHIPS.

"Because in 'Heathers' we had the Snappy Snack Shack. It was the 7-Eleven place. I thought it had something to do with food."

Now, though, she gets it — kinda?

Her "Stranger Things" co-star Millie Bobby Brown reported showing her Snapchat over lunch, and this was Ryder's take:

"It’s like the mirrors when you go to the fair and they have those weird reflections, you’re tiny or super stretched."

How damn quaint is this analogy? I mean, really. Fun House mirrors at a FAIR? 

She laughed about the fact the show's directors didn't understand how rotary phones work.

"When I’m supposed to call (ex-husband) Lonnie, I was like, 'Wait, if I don’t really know where he is, I’d need a piece of paper with the number.' They got me a piece of paper. But the dialing — they only used like three numbers because it takes forever with the rotary phone. I was like, 'You guys, it’s long distance. It has to be ten numbers.'" 

And she reminisced about her first-ever time calling a crush (via landline, of course).

"Back then you’d be like, 'OK, what am I going to say?' I remember the first time I called a boy, it was like [deep breath] 'OK.' You got that time it took to dial to figure out what to say." 

As for the vast amounts of hype the show has generated online, Ryder remembers a day "back then" when getting positive reviews felt very different.

"I was actually sort of suspicious (of the fandom) at first. I’d never experienced anything like it. It’s been a long time since I’ve been in something that was getting so much attention. And back then it was a different kind of attention. We’d stay up all night and wait for the three papers, and have someone read them first, like, 'Is it OK?'"

We think you're more than OK, Winona. Keep the grandma-isms coming!